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Giveth Governance Meeting #32

May 24th, 2018

Youtube Livestream - https://youtu.be/fdegofpJkCw

Attending

Yalor, Lorelei, Kay, Griff, RJ, Vojtech, Lindsay, Dapplion, Yalda

dropped-in: Satya, Taylor left-early: Kay

What we did

Yalor - coordinating with status aragon, giveth hackathon, returned from DF, wrote thank you for donors and sponsors, published manifesto masterpiece Rj - fixed a bug in feathers Griff - open source block explorers meeting, worked on identity project whitepaper, milestone triple check oversightght Kris - reddit hooplah, discussion on financial transparency, community mgmtm

Check-in

Yalor Lindsay - no distractions Kris - no distractions Vojtech - packing for bcn, looking fwd to proposals DappLion - minimal distractions Yalda - no distractions, happy to get caught up Lorelei - note taking RJ - no distractions Kay - might drop off soon to eat his pizza Taylor - looking fwd to get exposure, no distractions Edu - no distractions or intentions in particular

Logistics

Toggled-Off:

Agenda

  • Point1: Making 2 milestones for the price of one -https://www.loomio.org/p/ewJSymUx/dogfooding-making-2-milestones-for-the-price-of-oneDogfooding:

  • Point2: Change The Weekly Comms Meeting - https://www.loomio.org/p/YxDhOujV/change-the-weekly-comms-meeting-

  • Point3: What donations do we accept and what do we do with those we decide to reject? What donations do we accept and what do we do with those we decide to reject? https://www.loomio.org/d/iK2aVg05/what-donations-do-we-accept-and-what-do-we-do-with-those-we-decide-to-reject-

Point1 Double Milestones

Tension

We have a new workflow coming very soon for being paid, and we need to thoroughly test our DApp

Proposal

For every non-RewardDAO milestone, for it to be paid, it must have a LINK to a corresponding milestone created in our develop branch of the DApp that has been paid out. This is something Reviewers and Campaign Managers should check before paying out. This would help us ease into the new system. You can make yourself the reviewer, make details easy but the point is you are getting used to and testing the new system before we open it up to giveth users!

Clarifying Questions

Creating duplicate milestone? you can copy and paste? - yep! Do we just create it or do we follow the whole process thru to completion? - yes it has to be paid out If we get stuck and can't make our milestone til the payment do we get paid in alpha? - No Is there a retroactive? - Starts now - no whitelist, anyone can create milestone

Reactions

Yalda - good idea internal testing Kay - would like to use one system, fears it will cause issues that might not be relevant in the end Vojtech - makes a lot of sense, amend: as long as you've tried and you prove that you've tried, you can still get paid Yalor - trouble with milestones as they are - would be good to have clear directions RJ - all for it, in response to Kay:we can't make a clean shift to the new system b/c theres so many changes there are likely to be bugs Kris - all for it DappLion - happy to test Edu - we need it Lindsay - all in to get everybody involved in testing, agree with vojtech's amendment, as long as i don't have to do all 40 reward dao milestones ;) Satya - great idea, if you did your best and failed because of glitch and filed github issue, you should still get to be paid Lorelei - milestones are already complicated, but we need this so i support! Taylor - usability issues are our biggest prob so i support this

Amend and Clarify

Make the loomio be our wiki essentially, a one pager for tips, links to github issues. For the first week, if you show (in github, linked in milestone) that you encountered an issue in test, you can still get paid. Yalda proposed: keep the one pager private until someone runs through process, documents where they got stuck, then they can unlock the directions Campaign managers and reviewers will be double checking to see there is a link in the dev version of the dapp to the milestone in alpha. They will ONLY accept it to be paid IF the alpha milestone has gone thru from creation to payout in ropsten, OR they have linked to an issue they created in github showing why they could not move thru completely in alpha.

Result

PASSED

Point2 Change Weekly Comms meeting

SKIP

Tension

Proposal

Clarifying Questions

None

Reactions

Amend and Clarify

Result

Point3 Do we thank anyone?

Tension

We received a donation from a pyramid scheme, they were thanked, pr mishap ensues

Proposal

Griff - avoid the whole topic and not thank anyone - throw away yalors post

Clarifying Questions

Reactions

Yalor - approve, especially til we can get together and think about a plan Kris - makes sense to put this on hold Edu - hard topic. we need to talk in BCN about it. DappLion - distracted, nothing to say RJ - Discuss in BCN, don't do anything until we can discuss Satya - no reaction Lindsay - agree to discuss it there Vojtech - we should research actual legal implications in the meantime before we have this discussion, we shouldn't spend the money until a clear decision is made on this Yalda - legal liability will transfer to individuals in the absence of a corporation, i'm happy to send a drafted question to my lawyer, seedum was less than one eth, lets return it

Amend and Clarify

We will not do any actions about the money now, keep it but not spend it, send no thank you to anyone. In the meantime Vojtech and Yalda and anyone else with access to legal expertise will ask this question and then we'll have a well informed discussion in Barcelona.

Result

PASSED

Check-out

Griff - yay efficient mtg! see you in BCN Yalor - amazing one hour mtg Lindsay - lots of synergy! good feels Kris - Satya - cardona! RJ - efficient Lorelei - good process! Edu - great mtg Dapplion - great mtg especially with so much to discuss! Yalda - enjoyed the mtg Vojtech - good topics ;) [vojtech congratulates himself]

End of meeting

18:38 CET